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Publik

Changes for Shadow Priests

Unfortunately this patch has very little in changes for Shadow Priests. Below is the impactful updates, check out the full notes here.

  • Sustained Potency has been updated – It now also pauses the duration of Dark Ascension or Voidform for up to 20 seconds while out of combat or affected by a loss of control effect. This is capped at 20 seconds per cast of each cooldown (i.e. going in and out of combat more than once does not refresh the pause duration).
  • Entropic Rift now displays a low-noise version for your allies, instead of being completely invisible.

What this means

Functionally nothing is really changing except Archon now can choose to take Sustained Potency even inside of Mythic+. The out of combat pause is very nice for dungeons, particularly in lower keys and it was already competitive to take anyways (particular for boss damage or really long pulls).

Dracthyr

Starting this patch you can also make a Dracthyr Priest. From a combat perspective you get a single Mastery point from Awakened, which you can see how that stacks up in the charts. Other racials are listed below. To see these changes I did a video when it first came out and a revised one after it was changed.

Anniversary Event

With this patch there is also an upcoming launch of the Anniversary event. This event includes lots of cosmetics as well as some new gear drops that I will go over in this post as it relates to Shadow Priest. I am not covering all aspects of this event, only the ones relevant for player power. To see more about this checkout the Wowhead guide.

Timewalking Dungeons?

Currently there is a trinket, Mindtap Talisman that is from Dire Maul. This was available on the vendor on PTR but I am not sure specifically what the source of this could be. It is quite possible it is just a Timewalking dungeon drop during the event. If that is the case it would drop and be upgradable to 580 item level. I bring this up because even at 580 item level it is currently extremely powerful. Beating out many trinkets at Myth track item level, although not being BiS.

Blackrock Depths Raid

This raid is returning with HERO track gear. This is a great opportunity for alts as well as a few key drops that might even be useful for your main. Through a Relic Coffer Key system you can also purchase up to 3 items from a vendor if you clear the raid enough and do not see the drops you want.

Notable Drops

The following is listing ideal stat pieces that drop from the raid. There could be others that drop and are upgrades, here is just a short list to see what is available.

ItemBoss
Burst of KnowledgeAmbassador Flamelash

The Burst of Knowledge is extremely powerful and is likely to get nerfed/adjusted at some point. Early sims put this equal or better to most trinkets at Myth track item level, even though Burst of Knowledge is only Hero track level. This means it is strictly speaking a purchasable item that is Best-In-Slot.

Currently this trinket is extra powerful since it is not on the shared trinket cooldown, meaning we can stack this in execute and use it with Spymaster's Web as an example. I suspect this will be fixed, but even still this is a strong trinket that we simply just bind to Power Infusion.

Cantrip Items

In addition to normal gear drops there are also Cantrip items with extra effects. Below are the ones available to Shadow Priest with information on their power level for us.

ItemBossNotes
NagleringGolem Lord AngelmachNot relevant for Shadow Priests
Guiding Stave of WisdomGeneral AngerforgeWith the loss in weapon item level this is not suggested in any case.

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Publik

DISCLAIMER

This post is now outdated. We have posted updated guidance in IcyVeins and the Discord and the below information is mostly out of date. Keeping this only for historical purposes.

October 8th/9th Changes

Voidweaver has received lots of buffs to its kit which when using the right talent build and optimized gear can end up being better than Archon in certain situations. When comparing the best builds Voidweaver is up to 1% ahead of Archon, meaning they are very close.

THINGS ARE STILL BEING TESTED

It takes us a long time to sim talent builds, especially with rotational changes. Having only gotten this on Friday night we are still working on things and the below information should be treated as EARLY information.

List of Changes

How big are these buffs?

  • Archon Single: +2.8%
  • Voidweaver Single: +5.2%
  • Archon Triple Idol AoE: +2.2%
  • Archon Hybrid AoE: +2.2%
  • Voidweaver AoE: +3.9%

Overview

There are a few keys things to note:

  • Unfurling Darkness is now strongly preferred for Voidweaver builds in non-dungeon environments. This supplements our DoT refreshing instead of relying on Mental Decay and also gives us an instant cast spell thats hits like a truck. This can still be used in dungeon environments depending on how much of your time is spent at lower target counts (5 or less).
  • By default SimC will cause a certain percentage of ticks of Entropic Rift to miss, this is aimed at making it more realistic with boss and target movement. Chance is 5% on single target and up to 10% above 2 targets.
  • Voidweaver will naturally struggle as you go into dungeons and start pulling massive packs together, anything more than 8 targets is rough. For this reason pushing keys will still prefer Archon most weeks, but any type of pug situation where you are pulling one pack a time will do great with Voidweaver, especially during Voidbound weeks.

When to pick Archon?

  • Consistent single target damage, not contingent on targets staying in place.
  • Prefers the Void Eruption playstyle
  • Mythic+ Dungeons where you are pushing high key levels where packs are living 60+ seconds long or you are consistently pulling packs together and around your cooldowns.

When to pick Voidweaver?

  • Top single target damage, particularly when bosses are not moving out of Entropic Rift. This is contingent on playing Unfurling Darkness. If you do not want to play with this talent than Archon will net more single target damage.
  • Prefers the Dark Ascension playstyle
  • Mythic+ Dungeons where you are pulling one pack at a time and not chain pulling massive pulls. Ideally stays at/under 8 targets as much as possible.
  • Anytime you are fighting against absorb shields for Devour Matter (i.e. Voidbound affix, Queen Ansurek intermission, etc)

Rotation Changes

The following is a list of changes done to the APL compared to before these changes. This is not a full list of how to play Voidweaver.

Example Voidweaver Opener

This is an example opener with the VW_VE_VW_DA_cthun_82852967308207_Spike_DR build.

  1. Cast Halo pre-pull for 10 Insanity
  2. Open with Vampiric Touch to proc Unfurling Darkness and apply our DoTs
  3. Cast Vampiric Touch again to consume Unfurling Darkness
  4. Mind Spike
  5. Voidwraith
  6. Dark Ascension
  7. Power Infusion + Potion
  8. Devouring Plague
  9. Void Torrent
  10. Void Blast
  11. Void Blast
  12. Devouring Plague

Full openers with a wider variety of talent builds will be posted to the guide soon.

WeakAuras

With all of the changes there are a few WeakAuras to list to help with the rotational parts of playing Voidweaver Shadow Priest.

Breakdowns

The below charts include breakdowns in the various sim environments. Click each link to see the builds used. Note that this page will not be updated after the launch of the changes and you should check the guide for the most up to date builds at that point.

Single Target

ActorDPSIncrease
VW_VE_VW_DA_cthun_82852967308207_Spike_DR14743831.05%
VW_VE_VW_DA_yshaarj_cthun_81150852152239_Flay_DR14708670.87%
AR_SP_VF_cthun_80658376897455_Flay_ME14620200.00%

Single Target + Shadow Crash

ActorDPSIncrease
VW_VE_VW_DA_cthun_82852967308207_Spike_DR (ST)14743835.6%
VW_VE_VW_DA_yshaarj_cthun_81150852152239_Flay_DR (ST)14708675.3%
VW_VE_VW_DA_yshaarj_cthun_81150817583023_Flay_DR (ST + Crash)14605564.5%
VW_VE_VW_DA_cthun_80603201142703_Spike_DR (ST + Crash)13965770.00%

2 Target (Stacked)

ActorDPSIncrease
VW_VE_DoS_DA_cthun_82852967824303_Flay_DR19400532.60%
AR_SP_VF_cthun_82847494255535_Flay_ME18920480.00%

Composite Raid

ActorDPSIncrease
VW_VE_VW_DA_yshaarj_cthun_81150852152239_Flay_ME15099020.61%
VW_VE_VW_DA_yshaarj_cthun_81150817583023_Flay_DR15082430.58%
VW_VE_VW_DA_cthun_82852967308207_Spike_DR15059400.42%
AR_SP_VF_cthun_80658376897455_Flay_ME15022990.00%

8 Target 1 Minute Burst

ActorDPSIncrease
AR_EC_VF_nzoth_yogg_cthun_129962077501359_Flay_ME708768523.06%
AR_SP_VF_nzoth_yogg_cthun_129962077501359_Flay_ME702758522.08%
AR_EC_VF_nzoth_cthun_99313325094831_Flay_ME651499713.92%
VW_DH_DoS_VF_nzoth_cthun_98245891561391_Flay_ME61222406.39%
VW_DH_DoS_DA_nzoth_cthun_98245891561391_Flay_ME57579850.00%

DungeonRoute Overall Average (+15)

ActorDPSIncrease
AR_SP_VF_nzoth_cthun_98241696217007_Flay_ME (Hybrid)18748531.06%
VW_VE_DoS_DA_nzoth_cthun_98245853822895_Flay_ME18710530.85%
AR_SP_VF_nzoth_yogg_cthun_129962177181615_Flay_ME (Triple Idol)18552680.00%